Nickname: Chindia

Review: This article is out-dated, look at who are the largest EMS companies and IT outsourcing; they are either Chinese/Taiwanese or India based companies. India produce over 300k engineers a year and so is China! The business model of the world has changed in this new paradigm.

Date reviewed: Sep 25, 2009 3:19 PM

Nickname: foreign student

Review: out of all these graduates from US universities with computer science degree check out how many of them are citizens and how many are foreign students(80% of them leave US after graduation) and wonder why?

Date reviewed: Jun 23, 2009 12:45 AM

Nickname: superabimus

Review: Kind of funny that many Indian and Chinese students come to the US to get engineering degrees - or work on MS/PhDs in engineering. The real problem in educating engineers is that many graduating today do not have the hands-on skills often required to keep them competetive. Schools don't spend near the amount of time in labs like they used to.

Date reviewed: Oct 13, 2008 7:43 PM

Nickname: GradStudent

Review: The quality of the education = quality of the textbooks...and that's all. You think they actually teach you something in grad school? No, they make you read chapter after chapter until you throw up.

Date reviewed: Sep 2, 2008 9:01 PM

Nickname: smiller

Review: Your making a valid point. If India had so many engineers how come there is a shortage of engineering talent. Sam Miller www.walkersresearch.com/emailaddresslists.asp

Date reviewed: Jun 29, 2008 7:42 PM

Nickname: the engineer

Review: Nub's comments about quantity versus quality are irrelevant and infact, untrue. While it is undeniable that the US tech sector produces the most innovations and patents, it is mostly to do with a long established position in the tech sector and experience. What we're talking about is the quality of education, and i cant say for sure that the US produces the best engineers . For one, its standards are too low. I have had friends studying in the US and aceing whatever they do. Why? one word - standards. The standard of education received by Asian countries - China for example, is much tougher and students are exposed to much more difficult real world problems from young. So put the emotions aside and rather than complaining about outsourcing and competition, why not review the US quality of education so that you are back on the playing field once again?

Date reviewed: Jun 1, 2008 8:37 AM

Nickname: Larry

Review: My experience is that getting into engineering today is not a smart move. Even if the numbers are the favorable 4:1 (China/India: USA) the pay is many times lower in ASIA and the wingtip crowd will flock towards what the accountants say on the ledger sheet. One has to put in Eastern Europe and Russian engineers to truly make it worse for USA engineers. As a 25 yr engineer the pay starts to drop, the out sourcing accelerates and what was once a noble profession becomes price point of negative implications to the bottom line. Sadly I like the profession but it doesn?t like me anymore. It is time to be a project manager and become part of the problem. Sigh

Date reviewed: May 13, 2008 6:32 PM

Nickname: gruckiii

Review: NuB - If you outsource all the low-level jobs, all the expertise is created in another country and not here. Companies wont hire grads without experience, and they wont give grads experience because those jobs are not here.

Date reviewed: Dec 31, 2007 10:09 PM

Nickname: NuB

Review: (1) It's about quantity, it's also about quality. The report had not compared the quality of engineering education and training. How good it is if you have 10 engineering graduates but can not compete with 1 engineering graduate of others. US engineering eudcation and training is far more superior than others. Above all, US is still the best in techinology innovation and development. It is not a big deal outsourcing those low level engineering projects, US engineers can then focus on more advanced and innovation jobs. (2) A good immigrant system also makes US stand better, if US needs more engineers, just give foreign engineer job offers. No big deal for less engineering graduates.

Date reviewed: May 3, 2007 5:35 PM

Nickname: AUGUSTO

Review: It is not a question of the 'relative number of the resource-people engineers' but a question of the 'relative cost of those engineers' and their price-differential. Company managers and shareholders are greedy and they want more and more money in their pockets: Under the supposition that all engineers have the same basic level of education and expertise in any place, for the same money paid to one engineer in USA, EUROPE or JAPAN, the company can get 5 or more in China and India and 2 in Taiwan As long as the work is done and works well, and the money is paid for it to get the bonuses and dividends, the top level of the company does not care who did that work. That is the first lesson of capitalism in USA.

Date reviewed: Apr 22, 2007 7:20 AM